tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post6217383955052962769..comments2024-01-14T21:28:15.419-06:00Comments on My Path to Freedom: American RedoubtJenniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03994844081172979101noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-26685651878649291132018-02-04T05:32:52.060-06:002018-02-04T05:32:52.060-06:00As the temperature decreases, it is possible for i...As the temperature decreases, it is possible for ice to form in the center of that quiet patch of water. Ice also forms inward from the riverbanks, <a href="https://still4hill.com/2015/08/09/of-fences-walls-bridges-and-tunnels-the-gop-traffic-jam-and-what-do-americans-really-want/" rel="nofollow">fence contractors madison wi</a><br />jhonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08258690520992269231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-83894519704760751722011-07-25T14:58:50.970-05:002011-07-25T14:58:50.970-05:00I like both rural Iowa and Missouri (more trees/hi...I like both rural Iowa and Missouri (more trees/hills), but they are pretty close to the eastern hordes;<br /><br />http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/89/71789-050-459169A6.gifAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-69777999861563502772011-07-25T12:24:46.073-05:002011-07-25T12:24:46.073-05:00Suburban,
Yea, lower pop density is a plus. But, ...Suburban,<br />Yea, lower pop density is a plus. But, there are lots of states where you can find that, Iowa is currently my favorite, but Missouri has some tempting levels of freedom, and hubby and I are considering looking for work there.<br />There's no need to move out to crazy land, with your bible and guns. Just my opinion of course. Always good to hear from you.<br />Thanks for stopping by!Jenniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994844081172979101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-62930686994889660772011-07-24T16:58:37.240-05:002011-07-24T16:58:37.240-05:00@Suburban Survivalist, thanks for the links.
I ...@Suburban Survivalist, thanks for the links. <br /><br />I have never lived in that region (or anywhere in the US). I agree that it is hard to imagine a blog site creating mass migration and what would be a new country over a multi-state region. I wonder how many (if any) like-minded people he will attract to the area.<br /><br />I have a lot of family in Utah and the Canadian prairies (mostly southern Alberta). I think a lot of those areas would definitely cluster along religious lines, I have a hard time picturing them being tolerant of others. Too many variables to know for certain though. If they did become the sole political force for their region (a near certainty IMO) I imagine most people in the area would convert even if it wasn't a heartfelt conversion. I already suspect a lot of my family stays in the church because they don't want to be ostracized for leaving. Maybe if they start talking to me again I'll ask :P<br /><br />In regards to survivalblog and a lot of other sites, I share a lot of common interests with the people that frequent them but the more public followers at least appear bogged down in what I consider extremely counter-productive views on religion, women, education, race, fiscal policy, etc.<br /><br />I'm sure they are heartbroken to have lost me. After all, I'm pretty awesome. Really. Trust me. Would I lie to you on the Internet?Jon Lorisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10467753625608301539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-84613311967796178152011-07-24T05:37:27.717-05:002011-07-24T05:37:27.717-05:00Jon,
I think Rawles would be small fry post collap...Jon,<br />I think Rawles would be small fry post collapse and only gets the attention he does b/c of the net. His "Precepts" will be just that, his. I haven't lived in the "Redoubt" states, but get the impression that as long as one doesn't make it a point to go out of their way to ridicule Christians, no one will care what you are. At least that's how it normally is in the plains states I have lived in. I could be wrong. <br /><br />"Thou shall not kill" is the 1611 King James Version (KJV) and is a Catholic position. "Thou shall not murder" is in most Protestant and most modern versions, based primarily on more accurate translation of the original texts and secondarily context. A few examples; <br /><br />http://bible.logos.com/passage/niv/Deuteronomy%205.17#ref=Dt%205%3A17%2Chi%3DDt%205%3A17-Dt%205%3A17&ver=NIV <br /><br />http://bible.logos.com/passage/ylt/Deuteronomy%205.17#ref=Dt%205%3A17%2Chi%3DDt%205%3A17-Dt%205%3A17&ver=YLT <br /><br />http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/Deuteronomy%205.17#ref=Dt%205%3A17%2Chi%3DDt%205%3A17-Dt%205%3A17&ver=ESVAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-42778186767546649302011-07-23T22:24:56.130-05:002011-07-23T22:24:56.130-05:00*correction, to "...bible versions floating a...*correction, to "...bible versions floating around with wildly different interpretations of the meaning."<br /><br />I meant there are many different bible versions out there with different wording. Some reflect completely different interpretations of scripture or are correcting "errors," some are just attempts to make the language more modern or less controversial. <br /><br />Note: proofreading is a good thing, must try it some day.Jon Lorisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10467753625608301539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-76088959330300718222011-07-23T22:21:15.987-05:002011-07-23T22:21:15.987-05:00@Suburban Survivalist, certainly there are a few d...@Suburban Survivalist, certainly there are a few dozen (few hundred?) bible versions floating around with wildly different interpretations of the meaning. I've certainly known people to take it is though shalt not murder though I've never seen it printed that way.<br /><br />But that's kind of the point, isn't it? Rawles has the ten commandments listed as moral absolutes but we are already searching for more convenient (or some may say more accurate) ways to apply them.<br /><br />Thou shalt not kill is quite clear - and massively inconvenient. On the other hand, thou shalt not murder makes it quite simple to rationalize killing others. Not sure if the New Testament Jesus would agree. <br /><br />The Old Testament is full of a lot of very nasty ways of acting and living if one were to practice them literally. This leads to a more conveniently selective application of Old Testament morality.<br /><br />From a personal view, I consider "though shalt not kill" pretty darn ridiculous. I'm with you on the don't murder. As a non-Christian, I'm quite comfortable with just saying don't murder people simply because I think it's a good idea.<br /><br />As for the Redoubt area, there certainly is a lot of great land there, under different personal circumstances I wouldn't mind living there myself - though it's pretty clear I'm not on "the list." <br /><br />The United States and a whole host of countries should certainly be divided up into smaller, more sustainable regions. But I'd organize them around watersheds, rivers, and other critical terrain features rather than focusing on tank defence and religious persecution that does not exist.Jon Lorisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10467753625608301539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-42831309318082139382011-07-23T21:24:15.142-05:002011-07-23T21:24:15.142-05:00I think the main thing of importance about what Ra...I think the main thing of importance about what Rawles calls the "redoubt" is that the population is so much lower than the rest of the U.S., especially the area east of the Mississippi River. I live on the east coast and will walk out with my family during a collapse (if we're still here), or die trying. <br /><br />If/when we face a real collapse, being in low population areas will IMO be far, far preferable. <br /><br />http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/89/71789-050-459169A6.gif<br /><br />I don't know/care if my home state of Nebraska in the plains made Raweles' list, it's where I'll head. <br /><br />Jon; Though the King James version says "shall not kill," I believe the correct translation is "shall not murder." At least that's what I've read, and think it makes more sense contextually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-28935323808534537702011-07-23T00:46:28.378-05:002011-07-23T00:46:28.378-05:00This kind of garbage is why I too gave up reading ...This kind of garbage is why I too gave up reading survivalblog. There's good information on there - sometimes - but it is drowning in fear, hatred, religious angst, and the urge to buy old nickels for their silver content. <br /><br />It would be pretty funny watching all the religious weirdos turning on each other...<br /><br />I really loved this part on his precepts page:<br /><br />"The foundational morality of the civilized world is best summarized in the Ten Commandments."<br /><br />Really? I love how the "thou shalt not kill" gets glossed over so readily. I suspect the AK/AR love on there not only violates the no killing but the worshipping idols one too. There's some serious gun worshipping afoot. I like guns and all but sheesh.... :)<br /><br />Maybe we can use some of the Mexico border fence to pen them all in?Jon Lorisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10467753625608301539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-56517134208971406702011-07-22T22:15:50.848-05:002011-07-22T22:15:50.848-05:00Right on! Rawles can have his redoubt...phooey on...Right on! Rawles can have his redoubt...phooey on such nonsense.James from Iowanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-68169561878931626282011-07-22T21:54:45.212-05:002011-07-22T21:54:45.212-05:00Amen and amen!! I was so irritated today at someo...Amen and amen!! I was so irritated today at someone who was fear mongering in the name of Christianity. They were definitely giving it a bad name. <br />I agree with you, hard times are coming (or here!) but hate is definitely not the answer.<br />Judy<br /><br />haha- my verification word is beast!!Judy Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01121300109427407095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5058985884173971815.post-11375100635230494732011-07-22T17:46:32.558-05:002011-07-22T17:46:32.558-05:00A big hug coming your way, Jennie! I absolutely ag...A big hug coming your way, Jennie! I absolutely agree! I gave up reading Rawles ages ago, as some of what he espouses is too much on on the nutbag fringe for my tastes. I, too feel sorry for those folks that think living in the "American Redoubt" is a good idea. They talk of others being "sheeple"? To me, handing your decisions (spiritual, day-to-day living, etc) over to some sort of "higher authority" and assuming Rawles, Baldwin and their ilk know what is best for you...well, those people are the REAL "sheeple"....Lambhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04083153173061255844noreply@blogger.com